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24 minutes ago, Dag_driver wrote:

https://www.realescort.eu/ads/176254/natalia-2

Do you think this ad is real?
Large parts of Eastern Norway today, all of Trøndelag tomorrow. To me this is obvious fraud.

200% scam from Romanian gang. It shouldn't be allowed to post more than 1 location on  travel plan 

https://sex-tjejer.com/escorts?gender=girl

Just have a look on  Sweden. They banned very quickly all those outcall "ladies" with payment in advance .

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35 minutter siden, Dag_driver skrev:

https://www.realescort.eu/ads/176254/natalia-2

Tror du denne annonsen er ekte?
Store deler av Østlandet i dag, hele Trøndelag i morgen. For meg er dette åpenbar svindel.

Uenig.

Av og til vi er fast i en byen,men ønsker bli å bli sett av kunder fra andre regioner.

Og det er en ting som heter fly,har du hørt om deg?

Siste jeg har check,det er ikke ulovelig a en eskorte ta en 40 min fly fra Gardemoen til Værnes..eller ta tog,som er litt lenger..

Flere ganger jeg hadde min annonsen i Oslo,og faktisk jeg var i tog/bus fra Stavanger og hadde avtale senere om kveld.

Hvordan du tenke vi reise rund?

Jeg er ikke så glad i fly og hater flyplass,men jeg ta bus,tog,båt,som en helt vanlig menneske.Bare kjøre ikke fordi jeg har ikke førekort..

Nei,det er ingen en hjemmelagt tunnel vi bruke.Vi ta Vy,Norwegian eller andre transportasjon,og vi betale for det,er det ikke magisk?? 
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50 minutter siden, RealSamantha skrev:

200% scam from Romanian gang. It shouldn't be allowed to post more than 1 location on  travel plan 

https://sex-tjejer.com/escorts?gender=girl

Just have a look on  Sweden. They banned very quickly all those outcall "ladies" with payment in advance .

Ah,just checked,she do only outcall.

Outcall,3000 kr and payment in advance,is the romaniam mafia.

Funny,Real Escort already know that those people are being investigated,and still aloud their add.

 

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4 timer siden, ZezeeRealBack skrev:

Av og til vi er fast i en byen,men ønsker bli å bli sett av kunder fra andre regioner

Og det er bullshit å gjøre det. Jeg vet hvilke byer det er aktuelt for meg å dra til og da søker jeg etter det. Andre ganger har jeg ikke mulighet til å reise og da er det jo kun damer i nærheten jeg ønsker i søkeresultatet, ikke dette:

 

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Ser du det står "For øyeblikket plassert i", ikke "Alle steder jeg kan dra på outcall"!

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Just my 5 cents 

RE has never stolen any money from me. It's impossible for them to steal since you prepay for ad activation by the days or weeks. 

However, I dislike RE for its abundance of fake profiles, multiple locations per profile, and scammer activity. I prefer websites that allow only one profile per lady and restrict them to a single location.

I'm exhausted from answering repetitive questions like, "Do you have another ad?" or "Where exactly are you located?" My location is clearly stated in my travel plan!

I agree with @ZezeeRealBack about Oslo. I only spent one day there, mainly for financial transactions, not work. Countless individuals asked me why I don't use WhatsApp or Snapchat, or requested explicit photos and videos. One man even invited me for sexual activity in his camper van.

I'm open to trying another escort website, but are there alternatives? In my experience,kinky.nl and sex-tjejer.com are decent options. They at least remove scammers after one or two reports. But both websites don't operate in Norway. 

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1 time siden, RealSamantha skrev:

Countless individuals asked me why I don't use WhatsApp or Snapchat

As a client, WhatsApp is very much preferred over regular SMS as it can be set to auto delete after a day and the communication is encrypted by default. Snapchat does not need a phone number, some girls might not like that.

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26 minutter siden, Tukleren skrev:

As a client, WhatsApp is very much preferred over regular SMS as it can be set to auto delete after a day and the communication is encrypted by default. Snapchat does not need a phone number, some girls might not like that.

I honestly prefer calls. If a guy sounds a bit strange in a text message, I can ask him to call me back.

WhatsApp messages can be recovered. At least, Russian border control does this with Ukrainian refugees at Sheremetyevo. I imagine Norwegian authorities can do it too. If the police take your phone and you only have a few text messages without confirmation of an appointment and a couple of calls, you can easily tell the cops: "Yes, I chatted with a prostitute, but I never visited her."

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17 minutter siden, RealSamantha skrev:

I honestly prefer calls

You can voice call on WhatsApp.

18 minutter siden, RealSamantha skrev:

WhatsApp messages can be recovered

Perhaps but somebody would have to know to look for the messages in the first place. Having them auto delete means I don't have to think about it. It might not help you if the police are waiting outside but it at least helps me keep my phone clean from casual observers.

All SMS messages in Norway are automatically stored by the telecom companies for at least 6 months. Who you are calling as well.

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@The tinkerer I asked one client of mein who works in Telenor and this is his reply about sms 

telecommunication companies usually store metadata about text messages you send, including:
 * Recipient and sender phone numbers
 * Time the message was sent
 * Size of the message
The actual content of the text message is not stored

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2 timer siden, RealSamantha skrev:

The actual content of the text message is not stored

Well, we can certainly hope so. Datalagringsdirektivet does say that the actual communication is not allowed to be stored. The problem is that SMS is a part of the basic GSM communication protocol and these packets are sent to the cell tower at regular intervals (this is where the 160 character limit comes from) and some telecoms may just store the entire stream and call it metadata.

Regardless, we know WhatsApp is superior because it's end to end encrypted and no metadata is available to the government in the case of investigating a 25k fine. Clients have to trust the girls a little bit to not hand out information but with auto delete, if both parties do nothing, the chat will be outside the reach of regular police after 24h or 7 days or whatever you set the delete time to be.

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1 time siden, RealSamantha skrev:

To be safe, after you've met the escort lady  and paid her, you can ask her to immediately delete all messages and calls from you on her phone. And then you do the same on your phone. 

 If I see a guy is brand new in it or not very smart ,I request to delete our sms and list of calls infront of me. 

You really are incredibly professional. Your contributions on this forum are always useful and bullshit-free, which is much appreciated. 

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3 timer siden, RealSamantha skrev:

To be safe, after you've met the escort lady  and paid her, you can ask her to immediately delete all messages and calls from you on her phone. And then you do the same on your phone. 

 If I see a guy is brand new in it or not very smart ,I request to delete our sms and list of calls infront of me. 

A client should not have to aska escort to delete the message.All my messages with my REAL clients are deleted after they left.The exceptions are some time wasters with some ridiculous requests,conversations.

I had to delivery my work mobile phone once to the police,they recovered ALL the messages from a certain client that has been investigated from a crime he committed (real crime with multiple victms)

Again,police are not interested to waste money and resources in a Ola Nordmam that is paranoid because he paid a happy ending and is scare to pay 25k.fine.They have bigger problems to solve.

Escort clients are not priority at all.But following the flux and the clients traffic helps to localize where the trafficking vitims are.Clients are the bait.

They know who they are looking for.

I don’t know how is your situation @RealSamantha,but as a former escort that is legally resident here,i may have a different point of view of yours.I don’t live in hotels,the lease is in my name,so my clients are visiting me as a private person,they never will be bothered,and now is even safer,as i don’t rent from a private person anymore.That’s different when you have to rent for periods of short time in different cities.

That advantage is incluyin the price i used to charge.Now i have a even more high standards to my visitors and the RE prices are unrealistic and low.I won’t put my clients in risk,the same way i won’t receive any suspicious person as a client .

My screening game is strong.

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I agree totally with @ZezeeRealBack that the police may use the phone records to catch bigger fish than the mongerers. 

All gang related business dealing with trafficking, drugs and illegal goods, these are the escorts I would try to avoid. 

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@TototreNow i can say that,but the police do know the girls that are working independently.And they refresh the list very often.

They do a check up on us to see how we are doing,same with the organizations.You guys can complain as much as you want of us veterans,that we charge way too much,but at least in the 7 years i was on RE,never ever a client of mine has been bothered.The worst was that they got a parking ticket.I even made some scam denounces in the behalf of a client.

As long a girl is living legally,has a registered adress and does not use her prostitution money to pay the rent directly,she can have as many visitors she wants,and what happens in her home is nothing of police business.

But you guys never learn,still like to gamble visiting girls with very suspicious add,just because she is fresh meet.I have no sympathy for those that get caught in those situations.

And girls that come often to work long periods,i advise change the renting tatics and stop to rent with those real state sharks.But this is a topic for another discussion.RE clients are getting to spoil and entitled by the dispair of the girls making less and less money.

i just realized that is much better have one meeting a week that aloud me to take a long period to live my life than be on RE begging for attention,giving discounts for “loyal “.They ask you for discounts,but pay another twice the price.

It sounds like i am bitter with the business,but i am not.Now i am in a position in life that i can see things in another perspective.I don’t open my door for less than 3000.My time is precious and the hour i take to meet a client,i could be done something else.I could be in my campus,having dinner or drinks with my friends,make networking on my field,attending conferences and meet ups.

i wish both girls and clients break the evil circle that RE has become.

I miss the old days of RE. Good for you @RealSamantha that never been “robbed” not only me, @Capuccino and others have their profiles deleted and the money we keep in the wallet taken.

i pay 250 kr for two weeks in SD.It pays off and my peace of mind is priceless.No annoying wannabe clients pestering my phone drunk as fuck or saying obsene things while jerk off.

I was there for the fun and for the sex,money was a consequence.

Is not fun,so time to go.

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13 timer siden, ZezeeRealBack skrev:

 

As long a girl is living legally,has a registered adress and does not use her prostitution money to pay the rent directly,she can have as many visitors she wants,and what happens in her home is nothing of police business.

 

The landlord might get punished even if it's the woman 's registered address. It's different, of course ,if she owns the apartment herself .

I know one foreign escort who bought a house in Norway . Police told her ,she can work from her home but she is not allowed to rent it to other escorts. Yes ,occasionally she works from her house. 

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16 timer siden, Tototre skrev:

I agree totally with @ZezeeRealBack that the police may use the phone records to catch bigger fish than the mongerers. 

All gang related business dealing with trafficking, drugs and illegal goods, these are the escorts I would try to avoid. 

Norwegian police are lazy asses! They rather prefer to fine a poor farmer from Mo i Rana for visiting prostitutes, than to investigate human traffic. 

Even Malta does it better 

https://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/court_and_police/130800/colombian_human_trafficking_ring_testify_2

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1 time siden, RealSamantha skrev:

The landlord might get punished even if it's the woman 's registered address. It's different, of course ,if she owns the apartment herself .

I know one foreign escort who bought a house in Norway . Police told her ,she can work from her home but she is not allowed to rent it to other escorts. Yes ,occasionally she works from her house. 

As long as we pay the rent with another source of income that provide a paycheck and you prove it that your rent is paid of that money,the landlord don’t get in trouble.

Most of the norwegians escorts and foregners that has a regular situation here we have a main income,we don’t live exclusively of prostitution or we have companies registred,so we pay taxes of the prostitution money,but we have to declare with another activity.

Is not that east to buy a home in Norway,is less complicated in Sweden.And having a home in Norway does not give you right to live here legaly,but helps.Same as if you have a registred business.

 

 

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2 timer siden, RealSamantha skrev:

Norwegian police are lazy asses! They rather prefer to fine a poor farmer from Mo i Rana for visiting prostitutes, than to investigate human traffic. 

Even Malta does it better 

https://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/court_and_police/130800/colombian_human_trafficking_ring_testify_2

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Poor and farmer are two words that does not apply here in Norway.Farmers are ones that has more money in Norway.They are humble,dress down and are hard workers,but land is a gold mine.

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2 timer siden, ZezeeRealBack skrev:

As long as we pay the rent with another source of income that provide a paycheck and you prove it that your rent is paid of that money,the landlord don’t get in trouble.

Most of the norwegians escorts and foregners that has a regular situation here we have a main income,we don’t live exclusively of prostitution or we have companies registred,so we pay taxes of the prostitution money,but we have to declare with another activity.

Dette er direkte feil! Utleier kan faktisk få problemer selv om du ikke betaler leien med penger fra prostitusjon, og selv om leiligheten er din folkeregistrerte adresse. Det avgjørende er om utleier er klar over at du driver med prostitusjon i leiligheten, og ikke gjør noe for å stoppe det. Dette kan anses som å fremme andres prostitusjon, noe som er ulovlig. Det er ikke ulovlig å leie ut til noen som driver med prostitusjon, men det blir ulovlig i det øyeblikket du som utleier blir klar over dette og ikke gjør noe for å stoppe det. Uansett om det er deres eneste inntektskilde, om de kun gjør det sporadisk, eller om de er folkeregistrert på adressen, endrer ikke det faktum at du har et ansvar for å handle når du blir kjent med situasjonen.

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